Winding Loss Analysis (AC Copper Loss)

Category: Electromagnetic Field Analysis | Integrated 2026-04-06
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Winding Loss Analysis (AC Copper Loss)

Winding Loss Analysis (AC Copper Loss): Theoretical Foundations

Overview

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Teacher! Today's topic is about winding loss analysis (AC copper loss), right? What is it all about?


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Calculation of AC/DC resistance ratio for multi-layer windings using the Dowell method. Contributions of skin effect and proximity effect. Optimization of winding structure for high-frequency transformers.




Governing Equations




$$ P_{cu,ac} = R_{ac} I_{rms}^2 $$
$$ F_R = \frac{R_{ac}}{R_{dc}} = \Delta\left[M'(\Delta)+\frac{2(m^2-1)}{3}D'(\Delta)\right] $$




Discretization Method

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How do you actually solve these equations on a computer?


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We use spatial discretization with the Finite Element Method (FEM). We assemble the element stiffness matrix and construct the global stiffness equation.


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We perform transformation to the weak form (variational form) and use Galerkin method formulation with test functions and shape functions. The choice of element type (low-order elements vs. high-order elements, full integration vs. reduced integration) directly affects the trade-off between solution accuracy and computational cost.




Matrix Solution Algorithms

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What exactly are matrix solution algorithms?


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Solve simultaneous equations using direct methods (LU decomposition, Cholesky decomposition) or iterative methods (CG method, GMRES method). Preconditioned iterative methods are effective for large-scale problems.



SolverClassificationMemory UsageApplicable Scale
LU DecompositionDirect MethodO(nยฒ)Small to Medium Scale
Cholesky DecompositionDirect Method (Symmetric Positive Definite)O(nยฒ)Small to Medium Scale
PCG MethodIterative MethodO(n)Large Scale
GMRES MethodIterative MethodO(nยทm)Large Scale / Non-symmetric
AMG PreconditionerPreprocessingO(n)Very Large Scale
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Implementation in Commercial Tools

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So, what software can be used for winding loss analysis (AC copper loss)?


Tool NameDeveloper/CurrentMain File Format
JMAG-DesignerJSOL Corporation.jmag, .jproj
Ansys MaxwellAnsys Inc..aedt, .maxwell
COMSOL MultiphysicsCOMSOL AB.mph

Vendor Lineage and Product Integration History

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Are the origins of each software quite dramatic?



JMAG-Designer

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What exactly is JMAG?


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Developed by Japan's JSOL Corporation. An electromagnetic field analysis tool specialized for electrical equipment design.

Current affiliation: JSOL Corporation



Ansys Maxwell

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Tell me about "Ansys Maxwell"!


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Ansoft Maxwell. Low-frequency electromagnetic field analysis. Integrated into Ansys in 2008.

Current affiliation: Ansys Inc.


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After hearing this, I finally understand why the Japanese one is important!



COMSOL Multiphysics

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Tell me about "COMSOL Multiphysics"!


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Founded in Sweden in 1986. Started as FEMLAB with MATLAB integration, later renamed to COMSOL. Strong in multiphysics.

Current affiliation: COMSOL AB



File Formats and Interoperability

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Are there any points to note when transferring data between different software?


FormatExtensionTypeOverview
STEP.stp/.stepNeutral CAD3D CAD data exchange format compliant with ISO 10303. Supports geometry + PMI.
IGES.igs/.igesNeutral CADEarly CAD data exchange standard. Has issues with surface data compatibility. Transition to STEP is progressing.
JT.jtLightweight 3DLightweight 3D format developed by Siemens. Standardized as ISO 14306.
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When converting models between different solvers, careful attention is needed regarding element type correspondence, material model compatibility, and differences in load/boundary condition representation. Particularly, high-order elements and special elements (cohesive elements, user-defined elements, etc.) often cannot be directly converted between solvers.


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Practical Considerations

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Verifying mesh convergence, validating the appropriateness of boundary conditions, and performing sensitivity analysis of material parameters are extremely important.


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  • Mesh dependency verification: Confirm convergence with at least 3 levels of mesh density
  • Boundary condition validity: Setting physically meaningful constraint conditions
  • Result verification: Comparison with theoretical solutions, experimental data, known benchmark problems


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I've grasped the overall picture of winding loss analysis (AC copper loss)! I'll try to be mindful of it in my work starting tomorrow.


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Yeah, you're doing great! Actually getting your hands dirty is the best way to learn. If you have any questions, feel free to ask anytime.


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Skin Effect and Proximity Effectโ€”The True Meaning of "AC Current Only Flows on the Surface"

With direct current, current flows uniformly across the entire conductor cross-section, but with alternating current, as frequency increases, the "skin effect" occurs where current concentrates near the surface. The skin depth for copper is about 9mm at 50Hz, 0.66mm at 10kHz, and 0.066mm at 1MHz, meaning the effective conductive area drastically decreases at higher frequencies. Furthermore, when combined with the "proximity effect" caused by the magnetic field of adjacent conductors, local current density can become many times that of DC, and the AC resistance ratio ($R_{AC}/R_{DC}$) can reach several tens of times. Ignoring these two effects in transformer winding loss (copper loss) calculations can cause the design to be fundamentally off.

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